Third, if the adversary has gained administrative control of the computer, the “secure desktop” is no longer a protected space. Second, so many apps prompt the user for the same credentials on the user’s desktop that the credentials can easily be stolen there. First, it depends on a user that’s looking at a spoofed logon screen remembering that he or she hadn’t pressed Ctrl+Alt+Del before typing a password. "This is not particularly strong protection. Changes from the Windows 8.1 baseline to the Windows 10 (TH1/1507) baseline (20151118)Įnforcement of Ctrl+Alt+Del at logon to protect credentials from theft. It basically boils down to the fact that users can't tell if they're at the secure desktop, it's easier to steal the same user credentials inside the desktop, and it's hard to implement on keyboard-less devices. If you use any computer you are susceptible to attacks in a variety of ways, so I am looking for technical specifics that I can wrap my head around regarding Ctrl + Alt + Del providing value prior to logon.Īaron Margosis who writes for the Microsoft Security Guidance blog on TechNet addressed this specifically a couple of times regarding the change to "Not Configured" for Secure Attention Sequence aka Ctrl Alt Del. So now I am sort of questioning the credibility of Ctrl + Alt + Del, because (1) it seems it was suddenly dropped in Windows 10, and (2) to me the wording from Microsoft is quite vague. I don't need to go much further than that title to summarize that topic, basically admission that some password rules were security theater. My favorite is Stack Overflow cofounder Jeff Atwood's rage: password rules are b.s. As such, you can read numerous articles and opinions on the subject. Recently NIST revised their password recommendations, I believe it's publication 800-63B. I am having trouble understanding this rationale for Ctrl + Alt + Del I mean if a malicious user installs malware that looks like the standard logon screen shouldn't I first be worried about that having happened where malware got installed? Can someone at least provide examples of those attacks user's are left susceptible to?įor so long we've all be marching to the tune of must do Ctrl + Alt + Del prior to logon, and ironically it is worded "Interactive logon: Do not require CTRL+ALT+DEL = Disabled". The attacker can then log on to the compromised account with whatever level of user rights that user has. A malicious user might install malware that looks like the standard logon dialog box for the Windows operating system, and capture a user's password. Requiring CTRL+ALT+DEL before users log on ensures that users are communicating by means of a trusted path when entering their passwords. Not having to press CTRL+ALT+DEL leaves users susceptible to attacks that attempt to intercept the users' passwords. Is this no longer relevant? : How does CTRL-ALT-DEL to log in make Windows more secure?įrom Interactive logon: Do not require CTRL+ALT+DEL: Is the existing link with rationale explained no longer relevant with Windows 10? What changed? I no longer have to hit Ctrl + Alt + Del before logging in, and I am pretty sure it is not just me. I am now running Windows 10 at work, Windows 10 Enterprise if I look on my PC. See /privacy for more information.I was running Windows 7 at work power up the desktop pc and always had to hit Ctrl + Alt + Del before entering your username and password. My Substack page, come and say hi: books: mentioned on Ctrl Alt Delete podcast: : /emmagannonInstagram: /emmagannonuk *To listen early and have an ad-free experience, sign up to my Substack page The Hyphen: She is currently on the road from “absolutely terrible with money” to “pretty good with money" and in this episode we talk about Chelsea's three success myths: Myth #1: Endless money will make you happy / Myth #2: Traditional publishing is the only way to feel successful / Myth #3 The four-day week doesn’t work. Today's guest is Chelsea Fagan, a writer, home cook, and the founder of The Financial Diet, and author of debut novel A Perfect Vintage. To celebrate I am interviewing a selection of people I admire about what success means to them, and I’ve asked them to come with their three ‘success myths’ that we will unpick together. My book unpicks the 8 success myths, from happiness to money to productivity to celebrity to the idea of ‘arriving’, looking at all the different ways traditional success is marketed to us and how it can take us off track to what really makes us personally fulfilled. Welcome to the Success Myth Diaries! A brand new mini-series to accompany my new book The Success Myth: Letting Go Of Having It All which is out TODAY.
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